this was when i was in california watching on the trinatron, dan rather said that the race that night, he said this is like a too long car ride home from the beach in a too tight bathing suit. >> i remember. >> i love it. >> that would be a long car ride. that's pretty good. >> mike, what are you looking at today? >> a little sandy. we're going to have a big indication early with that 7:00 poll close in virginia. romney's tried to be so dependent on battleground virginia. we're going to know pretty soon what kind of a night, how long a night it's going to be for mitt romney just as we're watching hamilton county in ohio, two counties, those virginia -- in virginia, tell me who wins loudon county, virginia, it was obama in '08, tell me who won those counties, i'll tell you who almost certainly is president. we also know very early from the demographic in your exit polls, that if young people turn out, and since it's not a specific state, that's going to be a huge indicator if i want any one demographic piece from tonight it's that youth vote. >> and mike, you're also asking can obama b